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Inside El Salvador's Bitcoin Rollout: How Millions Got on Bitcoin

When El Salvador made Bitcoin legal tender, someone had to make it work. Ibex built the Lightning infrastructure behind Chivo Wallet and onboarded 3–4 million Salvadorans to their first-ever digital payment.

Jeremy Almond sits down with brothers Alvaro Sol (Co-founder, Chief of Staff & Strategy) and Juan Diego Sol (Regional Manager, Central America) of Ibex to go inside the rollout: treating Bitcoin as cash with a Lightning-only POS, the "money logistics" needed to settle through banks and SWIFT, and why there was no playbook for onboarding a country.

Five years later, Ibex is taking on a bigger challenge: bringing Central America's banks onto Bitcoin rails. They explain why Global South banks need $100–200M locked up at US correspondent banks just to send a wire, why remittances and B2B payments "all look the same" on Bitcoin, and how a "Trojan horse" approach helps institutions move forward one step at a time.

"People overestimate what can happen in one year and underestimate what can happen in five."

⏱ Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:00 Meet Alvaro & Juan Diego Sol
02:00 The brother who secretly interviewed at Ibex
03:30 From reinsurance to Bitcoin
05:00 2020: El Zonte and the road to the Bitcoin Law
07:00 Setting the rules: Ibex Pay and Lightning as cash
08:45 Powering Chivo Wallet: 4M people on Lightning
10:30 "There is no playbook"
12:00 Built in El Salvador, exported to the world
13:00 From merchants to institutions
16:00 Financial inclusion for banks, not just people
19:00 Bitcoin + stablecoins as LatAm's financial infrastructure
20:30 The Trojan horse strategy
22:30 What's next for El Salvador and Central America
26:30 Where to find Ibex

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